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 So my deep love and mild obsession with Haunting of Hill House means I spend time hanging out on message boards and such and one of the things that struck me about reactions to the show were people who felt that Olivia was always a bad mother, etc....It's something I really struggled with until someone mentioned that Olivia was never shown to play with the Crain kids as if it was a mark against her. This struck me as odd because until Olivia lost it her approach to parenting reminded me of my own moher, whom I adore and think is one of the best mothers to ever mother and is the reason that as a writer I will probably never delve into the bad moms trope. 

I personally felt like Olivia had a great approach to mothering.  She fostered independence, individual thinking and self reflection in her kids and provided IMHO a loving background that made the kids seem confident and well adjusted until they encoutner Hill House. Steve the oldest is a good example of the types of parents Olivia and Hugh are. When the Crains move into Hill House Steve is confident and well read, patient and considerate with the younger kids and happy to look out for them and spend time with them.

She was also attentative to her children and their different personalities recognizing that Theo was attracted to women rather than men and that Shirley always needed her own space, etc....

It dawned on me though that similar comments were made about the relatively absent parents in Stranger Things. Now the Stranger Things Parents are almost like the parents in Charlie Brown a pair legs with nonesense voices unless or until the story calls for it.When that came up many people brought up the fact that that's how parenting was in the 80's and even the early 90's kids were kinda free to roam with their friend with little parental interference. And that of course was my experience as well. Weekends, summer, evenings, I was outside playing until my parents called me in.

Things are very different now in terms of parental involvement, kids not going outside to play, children having a lot of their time structured, etc...I wonder if this simple generational difference is a big contributor to the idea of Olivia always being evil. 80's and early 90's kids seeing her as a warm loving mother able to set clear boundaries and nurture her children's individual identities as spirits. Kids born in the late 90's and the  early part of the millenium percieve her as distant, uninvolved and self-absorbed therefore always bad and her desire to protect the children as false or dishonest.
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 So since I couldn't look at Tumblr today I found myself looking for horror on reddit, my second fave internet time waster at work. After a little reading I stumbled into The Haunting of Hill House subreddits. Now I love The Haunting of Hill House, sadly the content on Tumblr was pretty limited finding a full reddit where people were discussing it in depth was awesome and it got me wanting to write some posts about my own thoughts and theories on the show. 

One of them of course is that Nellie Crain just didn't deserve that. Now I saw some theories that Nellie deliberately sacrified herself to the house to save her siblings or that her spirit was traveling in time to terrorize herself. Neither of these theories woks for me and of course here and there you have the people that just think the Crains were crazy,

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To me it seems obvious that clairvoyant Nell could get glimpses of the future as some of us do especially when we're children and what she was seeing was the most likely future that came into being the moment her family moved into Hill House. If her family had flipped another house she never would have seen that because that would not have been her future.

Also  I don't think Nell sacrified herself because it's clear she was absolutely terrified when she snapped out of the vision to find herself standing on that ledge with a rope around her neck only by then it was too late. I think she went to Hill House just to convince herself that she was wrong and the horrible things she was seeing were a productive of a fevered imagnination. There's medication for a fevered imagination, escaping the active pursuit of a malicious entity determined to devour you is a lot harder. 

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Finally Olivia. Unfortunately Olivia Crane seems to exist in a dream from which she cannot escape. She is a ghost trapped in a screaming meemie or is she? When Hugh confronts her spirit at the house they disagree about the children until she finally, desperately admits she is just lonely. People will do a lot of desperate things out of loneliness and I wonder if it was loneliness in combination with delusion that made her think it was acceptable to murder at least two of her children.

I feel like Olivia and maybe even the Dudleys have a sort of stockholm syndrome had set in, they've been with the house so long they've become accustomed to it's abuses, innured to the horror. Whereas Nell and Hugh newly dead were able to focus on helping their loved ones escape.



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